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1/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023 by Liza Mundy (Author)

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🗓️ 19 January 2024

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1/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023
by Liza Mundy (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Sisterhood-Secret-History-Women-CIA/dp/0593238176/ref=asc_df_0593238176&mcid=d8b024f8944a3cfb869a04c0b84ba964?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608071597838&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584207596928557&psc=1

Created in the aftermath of World War II, the Central Intelligence Agency relied on women even as it attempted to channel their talents and keep them down. Women sent cables, made dead drops, and maintained the agency’s secrets. Despite discrimination—even because of it—women who started as clerks, secretaries, or unpaid spouses rose to become some of the CIA’s shrewdest operatives.

They were unlikely spies—and that’s exactly what made them perfect for the role. Because women were seen as unimportant, pioneering female intelligence officers moved unnoticed around Bonn, Geneva, and Moscow, stealing secrets from under the noses of their KGB adversaries. Back at headquarters, women built the CIA’s critical archives—first by hand, then by computer. And they noticed things that the men at the top didn’t see. As the CIA faced an identity crisis after the Cold War, it was a close-knit network of female analysts who spotted the rising threat of al-Qaeda—though their warnings were repeatedly brushed aside.

After the 9/11 attacks, more women joined the agency as a new job, targeter, came to prominence. They showed that data analysis would be crucial to the post-9/11 national security landscape—an effort that culminated spectacularly in the CIA’s successful effort to track down bin Laden in his Pakistani compound.

Propelled by the same meticulous reporting and vivid storytelling that infused Code Girls, The Sisterhood offers a riveting new perspective on history, revealing how women at the CIA ushered in the modern intelligence age, and how their silencing made the world more dangerous.

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This is a

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is CBS I on the world with John Bachelor.

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Here's John Bachelor.

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And I welcome Liza Monday, the author of a Here's John Bachelor.

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And I welcome Liza Monday, the author of a new book that is both revelatory of the

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history of the CIA and a comment on the culture of the United States over the last

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70 years, especially with regard

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more than half the population that would be women. The book is The Sisterhood,

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the Secret History of Women at the CIA.

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Liza, congratulations and good evening,

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and like most melodramas, we begin in the Second World War.

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And we begin with a young woman named Mary Bancroft, Smith College, and someone who is extremely well positioned to tell us about the beginnings of what becomes the CIA in the Cold War following the

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Second War. Who is Mary Bancroft? What do we need to know about her? Good evening to

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you, Liza. Good evening and thank you so much for having me.

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And I love talking about Mary Bankrupt.

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She's a great example of the women who played an enormous role in staff, building our intelligence capabilities during World War II.

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It's, you know, it's hard to believe I live much of the time in Washington, D.C. where we now have 18 intelligence agencies that exist to oversee other

1:26.4

intelligence agencies and I used to be able to say 17 but now we have the Space

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Force but back in 1941 when we were terribly surprised at Pearl Harbor with the

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attack that launched us into World War II. We had no spy agencies. We had no

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intelligence agencies. We had no NSA, we had no CIA, obviously

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no space force.

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