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brad pierce he's the wayward rabler on twitter and on substack and he writes for us but not often

enough at the libertarian institute welcome

back to the show how you doing man oh i'm doing great thank you for having me back on uh very happy to

have you here you write such smart stuff let's start with somalia here um they're in the news because

there are some reports in the israeli press that maybe this is where Donald Trump is going to cleanse the Palestinians to.

But you have a piece here about a question whether Donald Trump will make Somalia land, Somaliland.

I know that. I don't know why I said it wrong.

Somaliland, great again.

So maybe let's start with that.

What's the difference between Somalia and Somaliland and maybe even

throw in a punt land or two there and help us understand also maybe the importance of Somalia

to the American Empire as well okay so yeah what the thing that Trump said that's after my article

was published but yet it's very strange that the three places they would say are Portland, Somaliland, and Morocco of, you know, all the places in the world.

So basically when the state of Somalia collapsed, Somaliland had been in revolt for around 10 years.

There was a genocide against the clan there, known as the Isaac genocide. And so they

declared independence at the time in 1991. Later, and I believe in 1997 or 98, Puntland declared

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