All right, y'all, welcome to the Scott Horton Show.

I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of antivore.com, author of the book, Fool's Aaron, Time to End the War in Afghanistan, and the brand new, enough already.

Time to end the war on terrorism.

And I've recorded more than 5,500 interviews since 2003, almost all on foreign policy, and all available for you at scothorton.4.

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is also available at youtube.com slash scott horton show all right introducing the great max

blumenthal he is the author of a bunch of extremely important books including the management

of savagery the 51 day war and goliath

and he is the editor in chief of the gray zone uh the great journalistic enterprise over there

which includes such excellent journalists as kit clarenberg and jeremy la fredo and other

very important journalists of our time here welcome Welcome back to this show. How are you doing, Max? Good, good. Congratulations on the new book. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Sorry, it's so long. I hope you like it. You're in it. It's a an encyclopedia on everything that led up to this disaster

that we're going to be living with for the next decade in ukraine russia yeah um certainly

you're listening to this you haven't gotten provoked, get provoked.

That's right.

All right, Max.

So before it's too stale, as we enter the new second Trump era here, I want to talk about this clip of your parting farewell to the Secretary of State, Anthonyony Blinken, along with Sam Hussaini,

the great journalist in Washington as well. Many people have heard this clip, but not everyone,

and I like Forum too. So this is you and Sam Hussainey at Anthony Blink blinkens last briefing at the state department the outgoing

secretary state under the previous Biden administration 300 reporters in gaza were on the receiving

end of your bombs why did you keep the bombs flowing when we had a deal in may we all knew we

had a deal everyone in this room knows we had a deal, Tony, and

you kept the bombs flowing. Why did you sacrifice to rules-based order on the mantle of your

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