1/21/22 Richard Hanania on American Power, Public Choice Theory and the Rise of China

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Scott Horton

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🗓️ 23 January 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Scott interviews Richard Hanania of Defense Priorities. They discuss the reality of how the American military’s presence impacts global events. Hanania argues that, if it were true that the U.S. was out there defending its allies, you’d expect those countries to want U.S. troops present more than the U.S. wants to have troops stationed there. But in reality, we often find the opposite. Hanania also gives the reasons he thinks China is all but certain to become the dominant power in East Asia but that right-wing fears over a global Chinese takeover are overblown. Discussed on the show: “Phantom Empire” (Defense Priorities) “The Inevitable Rise Of China” (Defense Priorities) “Nord Stream II Sanctions Are Not About Security” (The American Conservative) Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of Grand Strategy by Richard Hanania “China has been a failure at hegemony, so let’s just chill” (Responsible Statecraft) Richard Hanania is a research fellow at Defense Priorities and a Postdoctoral Research Fellow at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. His work focuses on political psychology, the causes of civil war, and the effects of interest groups on U.S. foreign policy. Follow him on Twitter @RichardHanania This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.0	I'll write to you guys introducing Richard Hennigna from Defense Priorities.
1:06.0	Welcome to the show how you doing?
1:07.7	I'm doing great Scott how are you?
1:09.3	I'm doing really good really appreciate you joining us here on the show today and you know I finally got a chance to
1:17.0	Look through a couple of your studies here first of all phantom empire the illusionary nature of US military power and I had missed
1:25.7	this one from last spring or early summer I guess the inevitable rise of China so if it's all right I wanted to start with the phantom empire. What do you mean by that?
1:37.0	So basically the US whenever it's abroad and there's you about what it's doing in any particular
1:46.3	country, the idea is put forth that basically the U.S. needs to be somewhere because it advances American geopolitical power.
1:56.2	So this is a natural way to think about things.
1:58.0	I mean, most of the time when countries have occupied other countries, they've usually
2:01.1	gotten something out of it sometimes you know by you
2:04.0	usually by force or threatening to use force against another country and you know the
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