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CVS I on the world. I'm John Bachelor. Mexico. A presidential election within months and Mexico is a major trading partner of the United States integrated into the success of North America and also known for its lawlessness along the American border,

not just human smuggling, human trafficking, and drugs,

but outright unbelievable overwhelming violence routinely practiced by the cartels.

There's the Cinnelloa cartel for example.

However, I learned from Allison Fadurka of the geopolitical futures writing about Mexico in this presidential year

that the cartels are not just Hollywood casting.

They come from a tradition of small business in remote parts of the country and also recruiting.

It happened earlier in this century and in the late 20th century that there were

members of the military who were turned out and they bring discipline to the cartels. It's quite fantastic. I want to learn from Allison how this happened.

Allison, it was in the transition between the pre, the party that dominated Mexico for most all of the 20th century and Pan

arrival that elected a president and now we have

marina a third party associated with Amlo.

Somewhere in there the cartels grew.

How did they grow and who were their new members and what did it mean for the cartels.

Good evening to you, Allison.

Good evening to you.

So there's a couple of important growth moments that the cartels had in the last 23 years because Pan assumed office in 2000 with

President Fox. So when that happened as you mentioned there was a big political

shift in Mexico when you saw one party that had been in

power for decades lose office to the traditional opposition party. With that

political shift came a different approach to many aspects of governance, including

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