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Here's John Bachelor.

I welcome my colleagues, Sesena Connie,

of the Hudson Institute, former Ambassador from Pakistan to the United States.

And Bill Rajo, the Foundation for the Defense Defensive Democracy, he keeps the long word

journalist a senior fellow. In recent conversation, Bill and his colleague

Caleb Wise speaking with Edmund Fitton Brown about a report dated at the end of June of this year,

from the analytical support and sanctions monitoring team of the United Nations Security Council Committee, the and the Levant, all one called Daesh in colloquial parlance, Al Qaeda, and associated individuals,

groups and undertakings and entities.

Just when you thought it was main battlefield now for

symmetrical warfare units Russia versus NATO. We're looking at the

jihadists who have never gone away and intend to continue their ambition for a worldwide

caliphate, that's al-Qaeda, and a grounded caliphate such as existed in Mosul for some years for ISIS.

Bill and Hiseena, a very good evening to you.

Bill I begin with the term of art I heard in your most recent

podcast Generation jihad with Mr. Fit and Brown.

Afghanistan of Somalia. What's that referring to, Bill? Good evening to you.

Good evening, John. Yes, so just as the Taliban was able to remain united despite international involvement and spread its version of Sharia, take control of territory,

established training camps, Chabob which is Al-Qaeda's branch in Somalia, has been doing the same.

We referred to Shabab, Kailab Weiss and I refer to it as the Taliban of Africa.

And so the

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