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🗓️ 23 July 2018
⏱️ 85 minutes
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David and Jill do M = Methods, and show Lee how to respond to his wife more skillfully, using the Five Secrets of Effective Communication (link). Like everyone who is trying to learn the Five Secrets, Lee struggles with several blind spots:
David and Jill do lots of role-play practice with Lee and give him a homework assignment.
T = Testing. After the session is over, Lee completes the Brief Mood Survey again. His scores indicated that his feelings of anxiety and anger have completely disappeared, and he also has a perfect score Positive Feelings Survey and the Relationship Satisfaction Scale. He also gave David and Jill perfect scores on the Empathy and Helpfulness scales and wrote what he liked the best about the session:
“My epiphany came at the moment I realized I had been afraid of emasculating myself and realizing that my vision of what a “man” should be was completely inaccurate.”
At the end, Jill reads an emotional email from Lee describing how he relapsed and started arguing with his wife, and then remember to empathize use the Five Secrets instead, with an amazing result!
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast. |
0:12.4 | I am your host, Fabrice Nye. |
0:14.7 | And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns. |
0:19.0 | Hi, David. |
0:20.0 | Hi, Fabrice. |
0:23.8 | Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of |
0:30.2 | Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into |
0:35.5 | over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor |
0:40.0 | of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine. Welcome to episode 98 of the |
0:46.6 | Feeling Good podcast. This is the moment that everyone has been eagerly awaiting. This is going to be |
0:54.0 | the Step 5 of Lee's relationship journal. |
0:57.9 | David and Jill, so you're coaching Lee through using the five secrets of effective |
1:03.4 | communication. |
1:04.6 | We've talked about this a number of times in the podcast, I think going all the way |
1:09.3 | back to episode 14. |
1:11.9 | But this is the first time that it's done with a live patient. |
1:16.9 | I was quite happy about this. |
1:20.9 | Now, in this segment, Lee makes a few error in using the five secrets. |
1:28.3 | And like most people, there's always like one of the five secrets that he systematically misses. |
1:34.5 | Which one was it? |
1:36.5 | It was the I feel statement. |
1:38.8 | I mean, he made some errors, but that seemed to be the one that was the most challenging for him. |
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