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🗓️ 1 August 2025
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Swiss politician Samuel Kullmann joins The Peter McCormack Show for a deep dive into Switzerland's unique model of governance and why it offers a powerful alternative to Britain's broken system. Kullmann breaks down the power of direct democracy, the importance of decentralised government, and how a nation run by part-time politicians with real-world skin in the game avoids the corruption and incompetence plaguing Westminster.
Drawing a sharp contrast, he compares the stable, prosperous, citizen-led approach of Switzerland with the top-down, bureaucratic failure that is driving the UK's decline and wealth exodus. This is a lesson in how real democracy works, a blueprint for political accountability, and a vision of a future where power truly belongs to the people.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:58 - A Swiss Perspective on the UK
00:04:03 - The Power of Referendums
00:05:57 - Decentralised Tax & Government
00:07:32 - Approachable Politicians
00:08:41 - The Strength of the Swiss Franc
00:12:48 - No Staff Means No Stupid Laws
00:15:23 - Can the Swiss System Be Copied?
00:18:55 - Lawlessness in the UK
00:22:19 - Direct Democracy
00:29:11 - Bitcoin & Switzerland
00:33:57 - Fighting Against Centralisation
00:38:19 - The UK System Rewards Morons
00:40:58 - The Incentives of Swiss Politics
00:44:28 - Why Socialism Always Fails in Switzerland
00:48:41 - The UK's Obsession with a Wealth Tax
00:57:01 - How Switzerland Handled COVID
01:01:41 - Law & Order in Switzerland
01:04:57 - The Dark Side of Switzerland
01:21:58 - A Christian Framework
01:25:27 - Modernising the Church
01:31:04 - The Singularity of Faith, Bitcoin & Governance
01:36:28 - Bitcoin Regulation in Switzerland
01:40:55 - The Swiss Healthcare System
01:46:01 - Switzerland's Generous Social Safety Net
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