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🗓️ 9 July 2018
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For the past couple months, Fabrice has asked me to set up a live therapy session to illustrate how to treat troubled relationships using TEAM-CBT. I was fortunate to get an email request from a colleague named Lee who wanted help with his marriage. He explained that his wife was very controlling and critical of him and attributed this to the fact that she had a controlling mother. This is very typical in troubled relationships, most of us are convinced that the problem is the other person’s fault. Of course, Lee told us that his wife, in turn, blames back and feels that Lee is the one who needs to change.
Lee initially thought we’d do couples therapy, but in TEAM-CBT we actually prefer to treat just one person in a troubled relationship.
Two weeks ago, Jill and I sat down with Lee on a Saturday morning, linking to each other on the internet since he lives abroad, for a three-hour treatment session. The session has been broken down into three separate podcasts plus commentary from Fabrice, Jill and David on each of the three segments.
By way of disclaimers, Lee is a colleague who does coaching for individuals with alcohol addiction problems. We are not entering into a formal treatment relationship with Lee. Instead, he has offered to help us illustrate a therapy technique, using a real person problem, as part of his training and personal growth. We are deeply grateful to Lee for letting us share his intensely personal “session” with you!
Today, you will hear the first segment on T = Testing and E = Empathy. Lee will tell his story. Jill and I will listen without trying to “help” or “rescue” Lee. On the Brief Mood Survey, he indicated no depression or suicidal urges. He was mildly anxious and slightly angry. His Positive Feelings Survey indicated that he was quite happy except in two areas: He felt only moderately close to people and only slightly connected to others. You will also hear him say that he felt like one of the loneliest people we would ever meet toward the end of the empathy phase of the session.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast. |
0:12.4 | I am your host, Fabrice Nye. |
0:14.7 | And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns. |
0:19.0 | Hi, David. |
0:20.0 | Hi, Fabrice. |
0:23.8 | Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of |
0:30.2 | Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into |
0:35.5 | over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor |
0:40.0 | of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine. Welcome to episode 96 of the |
0:46.9 | Feeling Good podcast. I'm very excited today because we are finally doing a live session on |
0:53.1 | interpersonal issues. |
0:54.8 | I've been waiting for this for months. |
0:56.8 | So thank you, David, and Jill, for making that possible. |
1:01.1 | What we have today is a live session with Lee, a student of Davids who lives in the UK, |
1:15.1 | and he has some marital issues with his wife. |
1:21.1 | So for a heads-up, this session was recorded over a video conference. |
1:28.6 | And the sound quality may have something to do with that, but it's actually pretty good. |
1:32.7 | So I think that this will be a really good example. |
1:38.2 | So what we decided to do, the session is about three hours. |
1:41.7 | It's been broken down into three segments. |
1:45.8 | The one that we're broadcasting today is the empathy part. |
1:55.0 | We'll do the agenda setting part next time. And then the methods and the five secrets in the third part. What we will do is we will make the inter session available in one shot, one big sound file |
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