#083 - Gavin Rice - Growth, Housing, Welfare, Immigration, Politics & AI Disruption

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Peter McCormack

Technology, News, Politics, Money, Investing, Finance, Bitcoin

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Gavin Rice is a political strategist and former government advisor focused on economic growth, demographics, and national renewal. With deep policy insight, he offers a clear diagnosis of Britain's decline and a roadmap for reform. In this interview, we discuss the housing crisis, mass immigration, tax disincentives, political failure, and the demographic timebomb. Gavin explains why the UK isn’t working, and what it will take to fix it.

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) – Introduction
(01:56) – Social Contract
(05:00) – Thatcher
(10:45) – Economic Reality
(13:50) – Deindustrialisation
(15:52) – Industrial Collapse
(18:51) – Net Zero
(23:56) – Housing Crisis
(27:29) – Rachel Reeves
(32:55) – Growth
(35:00) – Tax Disincentives
(38:19) – Demographic Crisis
(41:52) – HMOs
(46:58) – Welfare Explosion
(48:26) – Immigration
(51:36) – Automation
(58:27) – Policy Paralysis
(1:01:33) – Planning Reform
(1:06:29) – Growth
(1:09:04) – NHS
(1:20:51) – Teaching Economics
(1:22:20) – Bitcoin
(1:29:57) – Minimum Wage
(1:33:12) – AI Disruption
(1:38:46) – Critical Thinking
(1:42:36) – UBI
(1:46:17) – Brain Rewiring
(1:51:00) – Digital Addiction
(1:55:37) – Final Thoughts

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0:00.0	What we saw in the Thatcher era was an era in which inequality went up, right?
0:04.0	And she got a lot of stick for that because a lot of people became unemployed,
0:08.0	a lot of state-owned industries in particular were shut down, lots of miners, you know, basically never worked again.
0:13.0	On the other hand, the growth rate that was achieved was so high that overall the whole country got better off.
0:19.0	What we've got now is a situation in which you've got
0:21.3	high levels of inequality, especially when it comes to housing and asset inequality, and you've got
0:25.5	basically zero growth in real terms. So you've got an economy that's completely stagnant, but also
0:31.1	one which is deeply unfair as well. This episode is brought to you by our least sponsor
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1:18.0	Gavin, hi.
1:19.0	Hi.
1:20.0	How are you?
1:21.0	I'm good. How are you?
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