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#082 The Science of Vigorous Exercise — Should We Train Hard or Train Long? | Martin Gibala, Ph.D.

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🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 172 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Martin Gibala is a muscle physiologist, professor, and kinesiology department chair at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. He is best known for pioneering research on the health benefits of high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and his profound understanding of HIIT's physiological mechanisms. He is a co-author of the book "The One-Minute Workout."

In this episode, we discuss:

  • (00:00) Introduction
  • (11:00) What is high-intensity training?
  • (11:53) Zone 2 vs. HIIT for VO2 max — which is better?
  • (13:22) The vital role of vigorous exercise
  • (14:40) Why VO2 max matters for longevity
  • (17:45) Elite athletes vs. committed exercisers
  • (22:09) Measuring maximum heart rate and VO2 max
  • (30:31) How the heart adapts to HIIT to increase VO2 max
  • (35:47) Why vigorous exercise accelerates mitochondrial adaptation
  • (40:06) Enhancing fat oxidation and mitochondrial growth with vigorous exercise
  • (44:22) How intensive exercise boosts fat breakdown
  • (45:56) Is high-intensity exercise better for autophagy than fasting?
  • (58:05) Exercise snacks
  • (1:00:39) Protocol for VO2 max
  • (1:05:50) The effect of HIIT on muscle fiber types
  • (1:10:18) How aging effects muscle fibers
  • (1:14:09) Does high-intensity training produce an “afterburn effect?
  • (1:16:13) Why vigorous workouts are better for BDNF and cognition
  • (1:24:15) Anti-metastatic cancer effects
  • (1:50:23) Wingate training vs. reHIIT — a comparison of protocols
  • (1:55:38) Perceived exertion vs. HRmax
  • (1:59:23) Interval walking for type 2 diabetics
  • (2:01:06) Contraindications of HIIT
  • (2:05:06) Why preconditioning reduces risks from exercise
  • (2:10:44) Can resistance training be a type of aerobic exercise?
  • (2:16:24) Does cardio and strength training interfere with each other?
  • (2:18:45) How many minutes per week of high-intensity training?
  • (2:26:58) Are there sex differences in high-intensity training?
  • (2:26:58) Misconceptions on high-intensity interval training for women
  • (2:27:42) Should post-menopausal women do H.I.I.T.?
  • (2:27:47) Does intense exercise raise cortisol?
  • (2:34:25) Bone density and osteoarthritis
  • (2:36:40) Atrial fibrillation risk
  • (2:32:13) Hypoxic training and blood flow restriction
  • (2:40:45) Tips for training with joint issues

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0:00.0

Hi friends, today's episode featuring

0:02.8

the world-renowned expert on high-intensity interval training,

0:05.7

also known as HIIT, an author of the One Minute Workout,

0:09.0

Dr. Martin Gabala, is about the power of having options.

0:13.8

The option to be healthy even on the busiest of days.

0:17.1

The option to achieve more by doing less,

0:19.7

but with greater intensity.

0:21.6

The option to make every workout minute count,

0:24.5

whether you have five or 50.

0:27.1

When it comes to how best to achieve

0:28.9

the profound benefits of cardio-respectory training,

0:31.9

the faintest hint, a mere suggestion,

0:34.6

of controversy has begun to emerge,

0:36.7

dividing the discourse into two camps.

0:39.6

On the one side, proponents extoll the virtues

0:42.5

of a conversationally paced lower intensity

0:45.3

but higher volume zone two training.

0:48.1

On the other side, advocates argue for the time-efficient

0:51.2

and metabolically intense benefits

0:53.8

of high-intensity interval training.

0:56.4

This begs the question,

0:58.4

should you spend more of your overall time

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