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The Matt Walker Podcast

#06: Chronotype: Part 3

The Matt Walker Podcast

Dr. Matt Walker

Medicine, Science, Social Sciences, Health & Fitness

4.8995 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2021

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

In the final episode of our three-part series about chronotypes, Matt examines the question of whether your chronotype is truly fixed, or if you can change an evening type to a morning type (though you will hear that Matt’s preference is for society to change, not the individual). Matt reviews a fascinating study by an Australian-lead research team that tried to turn night owls into morning larks. Participants had to follow a series of strict rules over the course of a three-week s...

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0:00.0

Hi there. It's Matt Walker here and welcome back to the

0:08.0

podcast and welcome back to the final episode in this three-part series all about chronotypes.

0:16.3

So far we've discussed what chronotypes are and some of the dangers of not sleeping

0:22.2

in sync with your chronotype. In this third episode

0:26.4

we're going to discuss whether or not you can change an evening type into a

0:31.6

morning type. Now I don't wish this for evening types. I don't want

0:36.8

those evening types to have to change. I think evening types should be allowed to

0:41.9

sleep when they are biologically designed to sleep and wake up.

0:46.8

But I'm also a realist and I understand why trying to change night hours into morning larks may be seen as helpful.

0:56.1

And it has been tried.

0:58.4

These were the remarkable efforts of an Australian lead team. Here's the long and short of it. They took a group of

1:07.2

extreme night owls and these folks typically wanted to fall asleep around 2.30 a.m. in the morning.

1:15.7

The sleep plan that the researchers designed unfolded across the course of three weeks. And it was far from easy, however, they had to follow a total of 12

1:29.0

rules during this three-week period, and here they are in quick fire succession.

1:36.0

Are you ready? Number one, set an alarm and wake up two to three hours earlier than would be normal.

1:44.4

Number two, very soon after waking up you must eat breakfast.

1:49.0

Number three, in the morning, get outside and get as much natural daylight as possible.

1:55.8

Number four, only exercise in the morning, not in the afternoon or in the evening.

2:02.0

Number five, eat lunch earlier than you would otherwise,

2:06.4

and at the same time each and every day. Number six, no caffeine after 3 p.m. No napping after 4 p.m.

2:16.0

Number 8. Eat dinner early in the evening and do not eat any food after 7 p.m.

2:23.4

Number 9 go to bed 2 to 3 hours earlier than normal.

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