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When I went to the Ministry of Spiritual Ecology at Santa Monica University,

the way in which you relate to the problem is the problem.

Yes, it's more uncomfortable than it sounds, the problem is not the problem,

the problem is how I relate to what is happening, that's the problem.

And today's episode I consider it very beautiful, very deep,

because we're going to talk about the pain, the deep pain we feel in many occasions of our life.

But especially when we lose someone, when we lose someone to be loved,

especially when we lose to Mum.

In this week, we remember so much of Mum.

And Dr. Liliana Cabulli, expert in psychology, doctor in psychology,

therapist who has dedicated years of his life to the personal growth of the empowerment of other human beings,

we're going to talk to her, we're going to share together how the pain can be your great Master.

The pain can be your great Master, it can be the door that opens to you,

the way to growth, the way to make it bigger and stronger to evolve.

Today is the issue.

Dr. Liliana Cabulli came to the program once again, I really like that you're back from your trips.

And this week passes the day of the mothers, again, the week of the day of the mothers,

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