Deaser Originals

Hello, I'm Joy Barton and welcome to The Edge, my brand new podcast series for Deaser Originals.

Now most of you will know me from the football pitch and maybe occasionally from the headlines too,

but I also consider myself many things, a pundi, a father, a bit of a thinker.

Over the past few months, I've found myself away from sport, banned from the game of love,

and I've been using my time to explore something I've always been interested in, the mindset and the

psychology of the game, to have the edge, as I would call it.

Now, to me, the idea of the edge can mean a lot of things.

Being on the edge of success, the edge of failure, the edge of change.

But on the edge, I feel, that's where you truly find out about yourself.

It's where you truly grow and prosper as an individual.

And on this show, I want to explore that,

to speak with the people I look up to in the worlds of performance,

sport, music, politics and beyond,

and to find out what living on the edge really means to them.

Today's guest is Dr Kevin Dutton.

Kevin is a psychologist who has a particular research interest in psychopaths.

He's the author of a fascinating book called The Wisdom of Psychopaths and I asked them on the show to discuss the relationship between psychopathy and high performance in sport.

I first heard Kevin speak at the Leaders in Sport Conference.

I was truly fascinated when I heard his talk.

And as you go on to listen to this podcast,

you'll start to draw parallels not only about yourself,

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