First and foremost, if you're going to start your company, think of every way that you possibly can to food strap it.

So within a year I literally went from like signing autographs in Japan on a tour to waiting tables.

Never underestimate like if you don't have the experience. The fact that people will give you a chance.

Thanks for having me on the podcast. My name is Josh Sherman. I work for ADP. It's a Fortune 500 company that probably most people are familiar with as a payroll organization.

I work in sales and primarily selling their human capital management software. I'm also previously to this was an entrepreneur and I'm based out of Orange County, California.

Ben here's about 2012. I thought it'd be cool to have you on so we get that perspective of someone who did have a startup and now they're in more of that corporate job.

We're just talking about that you're kind of doing things backwards. Could you tell us about that? Yeah, I think that my approach from a career perspective, been quite a bit backwards.

So basically I moved at 17 and I finished high school early moved out the Breckner's Colorado. And the reason I moved out to Breckner's is there was every single last pro snow water that I really looked up to was out there.

My thought process was if I can get out get out there and be next to those guys, I can upskill myself and see if I can really kind of cut it and make it.

I spent a couple years out there and after doing that, I ended up and I had some previous sponsorships, but I didn't wasn't able to do it full time.

So after a couple of years, I started to get a salary and a travel budget and incentives and got picked up by Solomon and pond fire Smith and drop Almond Breckner's and I was able to do it full time.

That lasted about seven years. It was a phenomenal experience. I traveled the world that would go to Europe and Australia and Zealand and we were competing in the, you know, what's now I guess the Olympic qualifiers.

Really, a lot of my career was was dedicated towards getting into the magazines and getting into video parts. Then it all pretty much abruptly ended.

When I'm abruptly ended, what did you do and was there a particular reason why I'm abruptly ended?

Yeah, my contract was coming up. I was in a two year contract. I actually felt like I just have one of the best seasons of my career.

I had just gotten on the cover of Transwell Magazine put out probably my best video part to date.

My team manager, the guys that control the contracts ended up calling me and I don't for a long time and he probably had about a two minute conversation with me.

Really no preparation and I just told me that they weren't going to be renewing my contract the following month that basically my entire about 90% of my salary was going to cut.

That was really it. I think of me a lot of reasons. Just told me that they were going into direction.

I was going to be different and I didn't really fit into that vision. So I just got let go. Was that crushing to you? Yeah, I know it was it was devastated.

I had envisioned that I was going to be a professional snowboarder for the next five years that I was going to be able to I already had this was in November.

So December obviously was right around the corner to start the season and I already had a grand vision for that year and the following year.

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