They have a fear that we're going to make them, that we're going to be a quote unquote a consultant.

We're going to take all the energy and the creative ability and that unique quality out of them

and dumb them all down so that they can just make profit and although profits important

that is not our focus our focus is whatever that owners life achievement wants to be we

want to support them and then provide the means to make that happen.

So we think backwards for most people or the problems that most people have so that we can actually

help them achieve it.

So our, the saying we go back to all the time is the best way to deal

with the future is to create it. When you're running a business, there's always situations that pop up that are hard to get your head around.

Sometimes it's a small thing, a little bump in the road, and

sometimes it's a really big thing, the kind of stuff that ends up really feeling

like a gauntlet, the weight of the world on your shoulders. One of the biggest

resources a person can draw on in these situations is being able to have a

knowledgeable outsider who can come in, look at the situation from an objective point of view, and shed light on the things that you can't see.

That's exactly what Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson do with their consulting agency Revink.

They're joining me today to talk about how their company came together,

what it's like to spend their time identifying problems,

and the importance of helping create the future.

I am Tim Thompson. I am the founder of Revolution Thinking, also known as Rev Think.

And I'm Joel Pilger consultant at Rev Think.

What do you guys do for the audience that doesn't know anything about your company

at all in case they miss one of your many Facebook ads. Right.

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