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You're listening to 3 in 30 takeaways from mom's episode 42.

How to love someone when it's hard or complicated.

Lessons from open adoption.

And this is a bonus episode because it's actually the second that I've aired this week.

But I really felt like I wanted to put this one out into the world on the tail end of the other one that I released on Monday,

because they're really part of the same story.

One isn't complete without the other.

I hope that you enjoy this and thank you for letting me share this piece of my heart with you.

Welcome to 3 in 30, a podcast for moms who want to create more meaning in motherhood.

Each 30-minute episode will feature three doable takeaways for you to try at home with your family this week.

I'm your host, Rachel Nielsen.

Thank you so much for being here.

Today's bonus episode is a little bit different than anything else I've ever aired on the podcast before.

And that's because it's actually an excerpt from an interview that I did on another show.

All of you here probably know and love Tony Overbey by now.

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