Hello friends. This week I'm sitting down with William von Hippel, who is a professor of

psychology at the University of Queensland in Australia. His work's been covered in the

Australian New York Times, the economist Harvard Business Review, Time Magazine, and the

Sydney Morning Herald amongst many other publications. And on top of that, William von Hippel

sounds like a barren from medieval times, which is the sickest name ever. So I first came

across Bill's work when I heard him on Joe Rogan's podcast a couple of weeks ago. And I was

absolutely fascinated. Very fortunately, we've managed to find a slot in Bill's book tour, which

he's currently undergoing in America. And I managed to sit down with him to go through his new book,

The Social Leap, the new evolutionary science of who we are, where we come from, and what makes us

happy. If you have ever wondered about how great apes and trees became bipedal beings out on

the plains and then evolved into the humans that you see before you today, this podcast is really

for you. There's a beautiful story element and a narrative behind what Bill talks about, plus

there's loads of implications for how we operate today. Again, the same as with my

podcast, I did with Professor Robin Hansen, the elephant in the brain. Why we are the way we are,

nowadays, is a lot due to the environment that we evolved in. But in other news, I have got some

messages about why there wasn't a podcast up on audio platforms last week. And if you do not

form your own social media, you may not know why. However, we didn't know the YouTube exclusive,

what it's really like starring on Take Me Out. After the what it's really like on Love Island

podcast, we decided to double down if you don't broke, don't fix it. Sure enough, the podcast has

taken off really quickly and it's been covered by some of the UK press, which is always good news,

despite them misquoting me and one of them misspelling my name, but whatever, it's fine.

But we're back on a schedule. I've got Johnny Newsif coming up very, very soon to do some special

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