Thank you for joining me for another episode of Books Closed.

I am Andrew Stortz, and on this episode I will be joined by not one but two very talented

tattooers.

And those tattooers are Paul Dobleman and Austin Maples, two California boys.

They're going to be calling in in just a second.

We're doing this in real time, and this should be a fun conversation.

So I hope you enjoy.

Before we get started, in the place of where you would normally hear an advertisement right now,

I am the sponsor this week, and I am sponsoring it because of my desire to have my dream guest on this show.

And I'm going to, I may need your help.

I'll be honest.

I may need your help.

I often ask on an Instagram story or I ask friends, who would you like to hear on books closed as far as guest?

Who's your favorite tattooers?

Who do you want to learn more about?

And I get a ton of great suggestions in many episodes that you've heard have stemmed from people's suggestions when I ask that exact question.

But I would like to focus on who would I like to talk to and who do I think is the most famous tattoo artist ever?

When I think about that,

the only person I can think of is Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit.

Who was a tattooer in the 90s?

So, if you have a link to Fred Durst,

if you know how to reach Fred Durst,

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