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Typology

039: May the Fours Be with You: A Panel of Enneagram Fours

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Christianity

4.73.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2018

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

For those who are new to the Enneagram or to what life is like as an Enneagram Four, let me just give a 50,000-foot fly-by of the Enneagram Four.  Fours, called the Individualists, sometimes called the Romantics or the Tragic Romantics, these are folks who have a sense that they carry within themselves some deficiency--some irredeemable deficiency--a missing piece in their essential makeup that they can't quite name. It actually elicits or brings up in them this kind of inconsolable longing for the un-nameable missing piece that they're trying to find and recover so that they can feel a part of the world. They feel as though they're disqualified from belonging because they're different from other people. And so, this launches them on a lifelong quest, usually early on with the struggling low self-esteem, I've never met a Four who told me that that was not an issue for them.

And their passion, or their deadly sin, is Envy.  So, what is it that Fours? Fours envy the normalcy, the happiness, and the apparent ease with which other people seem to move in the world. We just look at other people and think they just haven't suffered as much as we have. We just have this perception that other people have had an easier time of it in this life. And that can sometimes give us a little bit of superiority, almost, because we also become addicted to our suffering if we're not careful. It becomes the core of our identity--the tragic story of the past that we don't know how to divorce ourselves from, and even if we could who would we be without it, without that tragic story? God, we'd be ordinary, which of course points to the underlying motivation of the Four which is a compulsive need to be unique and special as a strategy to compensate for what we perceive to be this irredeemable deficiency.

To best illustrate the ways that Fours are unique, even from each other, I brought in a panel of Fours for this week's show. The thing I love about panels is it's so much better for people to learn about these different types, these archetypes of the Enneagram, straight from the mouths of those who live in the shoes of those different styles of being in the world. Fours are the most misunderstood number on the Enneagram in general. So, tune in as Sandra McCracken, Megan Miller, Matthew Perryman Jones, and Don Chaffer join us in studio to talk about all things Four.

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0:00.0

Hey, typology tribe Ian Cron here back again with another installment of

0:12.3

typology the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality

0:17.9

through the lens of the Enneagram. Yeah, how are you doing Ian? Man, I'm good Anthony.

0:23.4

How are you? I'm doing well. Life is good. Well, I am delighted to see you again

0:29.9

my producer, my engineer, my friend, my handler as I've been told. True. Yeah, true

0:39.3

that. So I have a question for you. All right. When was the last time you were in

0:44.1

Europe? Gosh, it's been it's been too long. A couple years. Yeah. Three, three, four years.

0:50.3

What's your favorite? What's your favorite country? It's actually more cities for me than country.

0:55.3

I love Vienna, Prague and St. Petersburg. Those would be my three go-tos. Yeah, those are unusual.

1:04.9

I think it's just because they're so artistic in nature. I mean, the architecture, the art,

1:12.6

the museums, the castles, everything. How about you? Oh, man. Well, I'm maybe a little bit more

1:18.6

pedestrian. I love Italy, especially over Lake Como. That's how it was. You see, head out towards

1:29.1

Switzerland. That's probably my favorite country is Italy. I just love the food. I love the people,

1:37.1

the whole thing. Did you know, by the way, that there are any Graham teachers like Richard Ror among

1:42.2

others that actually assign types to different countries? No way. Yeah, really. They also do animals.

1:50.3

No. Yeah. That's hilarious. I think ones were ants because they're so diligent and

1:56.9

does she is hardworking, always going great. Oh, no. Yeah, I mean, it is. It's kind of fun,

2:01.9

little tongue and cheek. So the way they do it is they assign type to countries based on

2:08.0

sort of their characteristic traits. Okay. So, okay. So let me give you some examples of this.

2:13.2

So ones would be Switzerland, right? The perfectionists. So you think about the watches.

2:19.1

And have you ever been a Switzerland? I never have. Well, you've never seen a cleaner,

2:22.3

more ordered place on the planet. Wow. And you've never seen people get more annoyed if you are not

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