Never give up on my call. Working and pushing, and I'm not going to stop till it's gold.

I know I think and grow.

All right, all right.

Welcome, my think and grow chicks.

And of course, think and grow bros.

I don't like leaving the men out who listen to this podcast.

I'm super excited to have you guys with me on another episode. This one is going to be a little

different because it's not a solo episode. It is an interview. And I'm really excited about our

guest. Hopefully, if you checked out last week's podcast, you're all up to date on what's been going on

with me. So last week's podcast was all about what I did right this year, what I did wrong

this year, and what I'm doing next. And I don't want to give it away if you haven't checked it out,

but I did do my fair bit of discussion about maintaining my goals without burning out and just how I've been approaching

that as a soon-to-be mom in dealing with this awesome pregnancy. And so with that, I've really

had to revisit this conversation that you all know I talk a lot about, which is grace first grind.

So this idea that you do need to work hard to

achieve your goals, you do need to be intentional, but that you also need to allow aspects of

grace in your life, because if you try to do it all on your own strength, you'll burn yourself out.

And so if anybody listening is a mom or a parent or has been pregnant before and has dealt with all these crazy

symptoms and you recognize how much grace is necessary on this journey. So since this is something

that I'm exploring and learning, I'm definitely not an expert at, I thought it would be really

fun to bring other people on the podcast to continue this discussion.

And so I'm super excited to have my friend with me here, Ashley Brown of Ashley Empowers.com.

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