Deaser Originals

Hello, I'm Joy Barton and welcome to The Edge, my brand new podcast series for Deezer Originals.

Now most of you will know me from the football pitch and maybe occasionally from the headlines too, but I also consider myself many things, a pundi, a father, a bit of a thinker.

Over the past few months, I've found myself away from sport, banned from the game of love,

and I've been using my time to explore something I've always been interested in,

the mindset and the psychology of the game, to have the edge, as I would call it.

Now, to me, the idea of the edge can mean a lot of things.

Being on the edge of success, the edge of failure, the edge of change.

But on the edge, I feel, that's where you truly find out about yourself.

It's where you truly grow and prosper as an individual.

And on this show, I want to explore that. To speak with the people I look up to in the worlds of performance, sport, music,

politics and beyond, and to find out what living on the edge really means to them.

On this week's show, I'm really excited to share a conversation with you from a true sporting legend.

Rugby player and World Cup winning coach Sir Clive Woodward.

From 1997 to 2004, Sir Clive's work propelled English rugby into a golden era,

managing the National Rugby Union team to victory in the glorious 2003 World Cup final in Australia.

For me it was an especially inspiring time, one that helped transform the mood and culture across the whole of English sport,

lifting us from plucky and unlucky underdogs to international champions. It made me really believe

that the British Isles could produce consistently world champions. Cl made me really believe that the British Isles

could produce consistently world champions.

Clive went on to write about his journey

in a book titled, Winning,

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