Hey guys and welcome back to the ground up show I'm your host Matt Diavella.

This is a podcast about how to create something meaningful from nothing and our guest today is

crewspence and he's got a really interesting career trajectory. He started out as a professional

wrestler, turned dating coach, turned performance strategist. He's a really interesting character and

we go through a lot of really great actionable steps to help you with your feelings stuck.

That conversation in a moment but first if you like this podcast and you liked minimalism,

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And now this is crewspence episode 25 of the Ground Up Show.

crewspence yo yo homie welcome to the show. I appreciate you having me. Thank you so much for

coming on. This was so last second. You literally texted me this morning and you're like you want

to grab a drink and I said you want to come on my podcast and that's where we are right now.

I'm glad that we could make this work. Me too man. I did not see this coming when I woke up

this morning in Austin, Texas. I found out that you moved to LA when I landed in a plane in LA

which was which was cool and I'm very happy that we're here now. I tried to get you on the podcast

in New York when I was still doing it out there but I feel like whenever you're traveling you're

somewhere for a day or two and it's just very tight to fit into the schedule especially last

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