We'd just like to say that these podcasts were recorded prior to the COVID-19 UK lockdown.

Welcome to the Thinking Tackle podcast. Our guest on today's show is a Sunday Times rugby correspondent, who is probably best known as presenter of Talk Sports Fisherman's Blues.

Previously to this, he used to be a standing host for Keith Arthur

on Sky Sports' incredibly popular show, Tight Lines.

His own fishing is taking him around the world

and he even once caught a potential world record catfish,

which he never claimed.

I can guarantee there will be no shortages of stories on this podcast.

So it's a pleasure to have on the show, Nigel Botherway.

The Thinking Tackle Podcast.

Nice when people used to write letters, isn't it?

I used to have correspondence with a guy called Van Ingen, who used to fish for Masir, a Danish guy who lived in Mysore.

And he used to write to me, and it was amazing.

He's so exciting to get the letter with the airmail, you know, the blue airmail letter and envelope with the Indian stamp.

Yeah, the internet's great, but it's taken all that away.

It's like you never send anyone on a postcard now, do you? I know. I know. Why don't we do that? Yeah. It's just personal, isn't it? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, no, definitely. I think the same with books and magazines and all that nowadays as well. it's still nice to actually be able to own something.

No, I don't want a Kindle.

I mean, I'll give a book away after to own something. No, I don't want a Kindle. I mean,

I'll give a book away after I've read it, but I can't do with a Kindle. No, no, I've tried. I've tried. I like listening to audiobooks and stuff. Oh, audio books, brilliant, because again, the voice, that's what makes it, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know if I told you, the first audio book I ever listened to. I was on my way back from fishing

lacta d'a probably 30 years ago,

and I'd got Daily Telegraph, we're doing an offer, and somebody at work had belonged to the book club or whatever, and the first audio book, and it was The Old Man in the Sea by Chartin Heston, and I was listening it driving home from Lacta Dirk on my own

and I pulled up outside my house in Twicken and about half two in the morning absolutely exhausted and I carried on listening to it to the end because it was read by Charlton Heston and it was just spellbinding and are brilliant. Yeah, I've listened to a few of you. By the way, Nigel Boverwey, we're live. Welcome to you very much. Nice to meet. Are you familiar with all of this a little bit? A little bit, but your studio is probably a bit posh and the one I'm used. It's nice for me to be in the guest chair rather than steering it. Is it that much different to talk to support the studio? I suppose the biggest difference is we're not live. Yeah. That's the biggest difference. And you're in the same room as me. It's nice having someone in the room. I always envy the other presenters at Talksport. Nearly all the other shows are two presenters. Whereas, you know, there's me and then there's the glass and the producer, the other side of the glass. But yeah, it can be quite a lonely place in there on your own yeah do you

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