Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.

I am your host, Fabrice Knight.

And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns.

Hi, David.

Hi, Fabrice.

Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of

Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into

over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine.

So last time we covered the five secrets, briefly, although we did focus on some stories that really showed the importance of the disarming technique.

And I know that you wanted to kind of put the accent on the errors that people make sometimes

when they're using the Five Secrets, right?

Yes, absolutely. And because it's really pretty profound thing.

It can be a life changer to learn the five secrets.

It was incredible for me, not only in my career,

suddenly being able to develop better connections with my patients,

particularly those who were critical or fearful

or resistant or oppositional, but also in my personal life, getting closer to colleagues,

the wife, kids, family members, students, people attending my workshops.

I would say in particular the disarming technique,

all of them are important, but the disarming technique has been a tremendous game changer

for me. But just before we go into some of the deeper aspects of the five secrets, just

to keep clear for people, I'll briefly define them.

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