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Counselling Tutor

015 – Counselling Young People – Scripts, Injunctions and Drivers – Appropriate Referrals – Progression

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6636 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2016

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In episode 15 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly cover the topic of counselling children and adolescents. 'Theory with Rory' takes a look at the transactional-analysis (TA) theory of scripts, injunctions and drivers, and Ken speaks about making appropriate referrals in counselling. The presenters end with a debate on progression after qualification. Counselling young people Rory and Ken share some key tips on working with children and adolescents: Do not attempt to counsel young people before you have enough experience; this is a specialism that requires much experience and additional training after qualification. Make sure you have a good knowledge of attachment theory, as young people may have difficulties with relationships. Ensure the young person is ready for counselling, and has come because they want to, rather than because a teacher or someone else has sent them. Make sure you use language that the young client understands. Take into account the differences between how adults and young people experience the world. Rory refers to Gillick competence and the Fraser guidelines, which support professionals assessing whether a child is mature enough to make decisions. The aim is to help us balance children's rights and wishes with our responsibility to keep children safe from harm. Scripts, Injunctions and Drivers Rory provides a brief overview of these concepts from TA (developed by Eric Berne), an in-depth modality in which how our childhood experience affects us as adults is key: Life scripts come from how we view the world as children, building a story for ourselves to carry through life. Injunctions are messages we are given by our parents and other significant figures in our childhood, which then influence how we live our lives. Drivers represent a type of survival mechanisms - mental strategies that we develop to counterbalance injunctions. Rory illustrates the concept of life scripts using two real-life examples of careers chosen by people with particular childhood experiences. To explain injunctions and drivers, he uses the analogy of someone in deep water. Injunctions are lead weights tied around their ankles, pulling them downwards, while drivers come in the form of helium-filled balloons to which they are clinging; these counteract the downward pull by supporting them upwards. Rory reports that TA therapists often first tackle the injunctions. Think about what messages you were given when you were young; are you building your life on these? Appropriate referrals in counselling As a counsellor, you will sometimes need to refer clients to other services. Ken speaks about what we might look for in a client that would suggest referral is necessary, and how to make a referral. He also looks at inward referrals - that is, receiving clients from other agencies. In general, it is better to refer a client as soon as possible, before the therapeutic relationship is established. There are various situations in which referral may be the best option: As counselling is not an emergency service, it is important to signpost clients with really urgent problems to 'blue-light' services, such as the Samaritans. This could happen without even meeting the client, for example over the telephone (either person-to-person or through a message on your answerphone). Another occasion when referral is called for is when a potential client wants appointments at times when you are unavailable - or perhaps you are already booked up. Sometimes, we may not be the right person to counsel a particular client. For example, a client may have a preference for a male or female counsellor; it is important that the client is free to express such preferences. When you are working with an agency where the number of sessions is strictly limited, a client with complex issues may be better referred to a counsellor who will be able to continu...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the counselling tutor podcast, the must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy.

0:10.6

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:15.7

Hello and welcome to the councillor tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks.

0:20.1

And on the other end of a 40-mile wire

0:22.2

across the screen is my good friend and co-host, Mr Ken Kelly. How are you doing, Ken?

0:27.4

Hey, I'm really good. How are you doing today, Rory? I'm really well. I've just finished a

0:31.1

cup of tea and a baking sandwich and I'm really up for today's podcast, which is going to be full. It is. It is. It is.

0:38.2

I love how you say across the 40-mile wire.

0:41.5

And it reminds me, you know, that you know you can make a telephone out of two bean cans and a bit of string.

0:47.1

You can.

0:47.5

You can.

0:48.1

And a 40-mile bit of string and two bean cans, which is now called Skype, the wonders of technology and how far we've come. You're

0:54.8

right, Rory, we've got an absolutely action-packed series for you today. We're going to be kicking

0:58.9

off with a really interesting debate where we're going to be speaking about the difference between

1:04.0

counselling an adult and counselling a younger person and where the limitations lie. Can we do that?

1:10.1

Can we take a placement working with

1:12.2

younger people? So that's a great debate we'll be kicking off with. Then we're going to be

1:15.2

handing over to you, Rory. You're going to be going to theory with Rory. Interesting one today.

1:19.8

From the school of TA, we're going to be looking at injunctions, drivers and life scripts.

1:24.9

I love them. I love it. Life, is a really interesting one for me.

1:30.1

Yeah, it's a really interesting one, Kent, because I was in the bookshop the other day,

1:36.0

and everybody who knows me or sees us on the Facebook feed. And if you want to come onto the

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