And we are back, folks, here on the Michigan Insider on the Big 1050 WTCA online at the big 1050.com, Sam Webb.

Mr. Iro and drop on the other side and joining us as he does again in this hour, our good friend Eric Adelson and EASEC meetings starting up this week.

Now, last week we talked about Tony Petiti and basically drawing the line

and saying flexing a bit, you know, last three national champions, basketball championship.

He's like, hey, man, I can throw my weight around, my voice around a little bit. He said that

with regard to college football, 24 teams in the playoffs.

It is that way or no way.

We either do that or we do nothing because I said so, really because Fox said so, but because I said so, right?

Really setting up a response from Greg Sanky, which I really thought would be an in-kind response.

And his was a little tame by comparison saying his mantra has been 16 teams, but saying, hey, you know, we're more, most concerned about the impact on a regular season and, you know, adding value there and, you know, thinking about the fans, saying all the things that would be popular with the fans, really even if he's just speaking for ESPN, but also adding EA that he's not closed off to the conversation of 24 teams.

What do you make of it?

Yeah, I mean, that's where the money is.

So the CEO, I know he's not a CEO and he's a commissioner, but all these commissioners are acting as CEOs.

They're reading all the CEO books.

They're watching CNBC.

And it's all about growth.

Can you demonstrate growth to the shareholders?

And if you stop and succeed, they're not demonstrating as much growth, especially compared to the other guy,

the other company, the corporation of the North.

And so I think he'll yield on this.

I think it'll be 24.

They're going to keep going until there's obvious decline in the product.

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